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<p> <strong>Attended</strong>: visited<br> <strong>Recommend</strong>: Yes <p> Ok.here is the 'problem'..my son is a straight A High School senior bent on the film industry (as director)next fall. So, old dad goes to work and gets all the info on all the major film colleges sent to the house. Then..we make a trip to to LA where I grew up.I introduce him to friends(I'm in the entertainment business), who have made it as directors, producers, friends who own lighting companies etc. Friends who by the way did not finish college. <p> Then I have him visit USC,UCLA and LA Film School..now on the return home I find I have created a monster. He won't even consider applying to USC,UCLA.......says he can get exactly what he needs at LA Film School in a 'crash course' (12 months). I will admit they (LAFS) have what appears to be good, state of the art equipment for filming ,editing, sound and what appears to be professional instructors, some who are in the industry...but 'old dad' is petrified that he isnt getting or even looking at a degree program anymore and he seems to think he can take a quick course and get 'in' through our mutual friends once he knows the basics of the camera,sound,lighting,editing etc. He keeps pointing to my friends who are now big people in the industry and I'm tired of arguing. Can you go to a place like LA Film School...get the basics..and get in the industry at an entry level position?? We had a wonderful, cordial, up front visit with the people at LA Film School....but no-one offered to have us talk to or put us in contact with anyone who has graduated in the 2 years the program has been in place, nor did they offer any idea of specific jobs former students had gotten as a result of a hefty tuition. That worries me. If I ran a school that was turning out success I would brag on them and show applicants standing there with their checkbooks in hand how the school had helped these 'graduates'.Please...only serious speculation not guesses. leftseatmusic@hotmail.com <p> <strong>Reviewer's Location</strong>: Lebanon, TN USA <p> <p> --------<br> <strong>Note</strong>: <em>This review was auto-imported from an older LOAFS database. A "Yes" recommendation has been translated into a rating of ten. A "No" has been translated into a rating of one</em>.<br> -------- <b>Review Submitted by:</b> <a href="mailto:leftseatmusic@hotmail.com">Dave</a> (unverified)
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Los Angeles Film School is awesome. I have a friend that graduated and is already making movies. He said that when you leave there you are prepared, unlike other schools. He raved how his instructors are not full time teachers but rather working hollywood types, and he got plenty of contact with famous filmmakers. Now one of our mutual friends is set to go there. It's right in the middle of Hollywood. Can't beat that! I just wish they would have more information on them accessible here in Europe because from what I hear they take European students. They help foreign students with their visas. Wrote: Filmmaker wantabe out of Amsterdam. Would go to LA if only I could take the risk and leave work!

My score: 10.

LA Film School is now partnered with Full Sail. Go to Fullsailsucks.com and see if you want to be giving your money to these people.

My score: 1.

I had read they partnered with full sail. so, I called them up. I plan on going to la film school and definitely not to full sail and wanted to know if anything was changing. I have a representative assigned to me and she said that nothing was changing and that the partnership was via the owners of the two businesses and wouldn't affect the way the business was operated. I've had a really good relationship with la film school, so as long as curriculum and staff remains unchanged, I don't care who owns it. I've seen the anti-full sail garbage and personal vendettas are moronic. I haven't seen any real evidence against full sail, just a lot of pains in the ass that would rather spend their time and energy whining on a glorious scale than actually doing anything creative... is whining creative?

My score: 10.

does anyone know the admissions process? like how they decide who gets in or is it just if you have the money you get in?

My score: 10.

I go to Full Sail right now, and love it. The people that whine and complain don't do anything to get themselves started in the industry. You only get out of it what you put into it. I can't stress that enough. It's our job as serious filmmakers to make business contacts in class and with teachers if we want to succeed in the field. We learn a basic knowledge of everything industry related from pre to post production, and the people that rip on the school on a daily basis are doing a great disservice to themselves and their school by trying to convince people otherwise.

I go to Full Sail right now, and love it. The people that whine and complain don't do anything to get themselves started in the industry. You only get out of it what you put into it. I can't stress that enough. It's our job as serious filmmakers to make business contacts in class and with teachers if we want to succeed in the field. We learn a basic knowledge of everything industry related from pre to post production, and the people that rip on the school on a daily basis are doing a great disservice to themselves and their school by trying to convince people otherwise.

does anyone know if lafs is hard to get into? i have heard the age range is just out of high school. and i will be around 25 when i go. i really am serious about going to this school, and really want to go. can anyone help me out? please email me with any advice!! thanks!
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I'm going this fall November 2009 and it's set in stone. The admission process is not the easiest but certainly not one where useless recommendation letters are required. Most of the courses are ones you'll definitely need. Unlike some colleges/schools where you would need to take many general courses just to fulfill the program. It is accredited with WASC. And they may be accredited with NASAD in the future. It is a school that is expanding and advancing. The only thing is that it is TOO EXPENSIVE.

You think that because one person you know is "working" that makes it a "good" film school?

There are thousands of people who went to LA Film School who never worked a day in film business. This school does little to prepare you for the real world of flimmaking. I went to this school and I now work in the film business, but what I "learned" at LAFS meant little or nothing in getting my career going. I went to a "real" film school after LAFS and that got my career started.

The owners of Full Sail bought LAFS and they are transforming it into what Full Sail is: a hack school, a diploma mill.

Most of the teachers at LAFS are graduates of LAFS and have absolutely no real world experience. The school is overcrowded because they accept every single person who applies. There are not studios for the students to use. The owners care not a bit about actual education, they just want to cash your check.

LAFS is the worst film school in California. If you want evidence about how bad Full Sail is, there's plenty of it. It's not a real film school at all. The vast majority of people who go there never get into the film industry at all -- they end up working at channel 9 news in Memphis and things like that. Nothing wrong with that, those are good jobs, but it's not movie making.

The joke at LAFS (which I heard many times) is "if you can fog a mirror" you're accepted. Meaning that if you are breathing you passed the test. This means that your fellow students you work with and do projects with and have to depend on are misfits, morons and dropouts. There are a few good students but not many. The faculty constantly talks about how the quality of students has gone down disastrously since Full Sail bought it.

The joke at LAFS (which I heard many times) is "if you can fog a mirror" you're accepted. Meaning that if you are breathing you passed the test. This means that your fellow students you work with and do projects with and have to depend on are misfits, morons and dropouts. There are a few good students but not many. The faculty constantly talks about how the quality of students has gone down disastrously since Full Sail bought it.

Full Sail is the WORST.

I have had to fire at least 3 Full Sail grads over the years because they were so badly clueless they did thousands of dollars damage to client masters and or other inexcusable mishaps.

Wow. Full Sail is a joke. So is LA Film School.

And I posted a review of LA Film School in another area, but for the record, here is part of it again:

I've been in this business for decades, and there is one thing I can tell your for certain:

L.A. Film School will NOT teach you how to be a filmmaker.

STAY AWAY. RUN. HIDE.

If you want to get into the film industry, and need some basic education, go to LACC (Los Angeles Community College) for next to nothing - and get a far better education than this place. If you can afford LA Film School, then you should be going to UCLA or USC. But even then: If you want to get a career going in Hollywood, mostly what you need is a car and a desire to work. Start out as a production assistant (aka a runner). That's how Kathleen Kennedy started - and more than half this town, to be honest. On "Raiders of the Lost Ark" she was a production assistant. On Spielberg's next film, "E.T." she was a PRODUCER.

You cannot learn to make films in a school - you need - MUST - learn by doing, in the field, working with professionals. And one thing you will not find at LA Film School are any "professionals"....Uh, check that, there are "professionals" since they are run by professional CON ARTISTS who are good at TAKING YOUR MONEY.

For what they charge, you could buy a whole RedOne camera setup and FCP editing system.

Sadly, they will probably stay in business, as people with more money than brains drift into Hollywood, chasing a dream.

If you really want a film education try:
USC
Chapman
CalArts
UCLA
and even LACC (for a cheap introduction, and a better shot than LAFS, lololz)

Ok so i have read several comments from people about Full sail being a bad school, and i keep thinking to myself oh so thats why they accepted me so easily, because people said they were all about the money. To be honest thats fine if i get a good education but if the education is not there then i might as well save a few years of my life and receive help from you guys. I really do want to go to film school and become a director, the thing is i want to learn properly and i want to be able to have enough of an understanding that i can actually make my mark in the film industry rather than just being swept away by it.

I need help from you guys, i want to go to a good school but now that i feel full sail is bad and LA film is also bad now i don't know what to do. I was accepted by full sail and so i am set to go next September, I did some research and decided to try USC, but i wonder if i have a chance there. I have not even applied for USC because i did not know about it being such a good school. I might be too late now.

I live in Washington and i was going to go to Full Sail, i am not so sure now, so Cali is not so far away.

PS film guy thank you for your post its helped me to find more schools. I am going to keep searching, if anyone can give me some advice i would be very grateful.

I've got firsthand experience with Full Sail..... sadly, I didn't see the horrible reviews before I enrolled. Hopefully I can save others the pain of attending.

And it seems the students at LA Film school have gotten together and there is now a class-action suit against the school... it would be nice to have the same thing happen at Full Sail.

Read my blog.
http://fullsailuniversityreview.blogspot.com/

BEWARE!!!

LA Film School is all flash. They spend all the money on sales and marketing and some fancy equipment that looks great when you take the tour. Fancy equipment is not what is important in a film school. The faculty is and LAFS faculty is mediocre at best. A few teachers have real industry experience but a lot of the teachers there have no real film industry experience at all.

One example, the head of the cinematography program is a 28 year old girl who has never shot anything as a DP except some really bad, ultra low-budget things that are hardly more than student films. She has no business being a film school teacher, let alone the head of the department.

I graduated from LA Film School in 2006. At that time they pretty much let anyone in who could afford to pay for it. But even still, it was a great experience. Lots of debt...but I do own my own production company now. So you never know. You get what you put into it.

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